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-{{SeaArchive}}
-This is my third Talk page!!!
-== Thanks ==
-Thanks for putting my shop on the front page and first post![[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:green;background:red">Guitar hero guy</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|Talk to the guitar hero guy!]]</small> [[File:Lucasrules.jpg]] 21:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
-== Second! ==
-Yay! Second Post on New Talk!
-<font color="yellow" face="Arial">Please</font><font color="orange" face="Arial"> Take</font><font color="red" face="Arial"> Note: </font>[[User:Upgrader|<font color="green" face="Arial">Upgrader</font>]] <font color="blue" face="Arial"> Was </font><font color="maroon" face="Arial"> Here </font>[[User talk:Upgrader|TALK TO HIM!!]] [[File: Upgrader's_Penguins.png|75px]] 21:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
-== How ==
-How do you archive your talk page?[[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:green;background:red">Guitar hero guy</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|Talk to the guitar hero guy!]]</small> [[File:Lucasrules.jpg]] 21:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
-== look ==
-Look [[User talk:Guitar hero guy|this]] is my old talk page it has more than 100 posts![[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:green;background:red">Guitar hero guy</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|Talk to the guitar hero guy!]]</small> [[File:Lucasrules.jpg]] 21:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
-== My page and Iamred1 ==
-Iamred was lying now. I am not ban evading ''anymore''. Plus he was lying. I never hacked him on xat. Ask Alxeedo he was there when he cussed. and congrats on admin :)--[[User:The Real Ben|<font color="Blue">The</font>  <font color="Green">Real</font>   <font color="gold">Ben</font>]]  [[User talk:The Real Ben|<font color="Orange">Talk to Be</font>]][[User:The Real Ben/SecretError404|<font color="orange">n</font>]] 02:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-and i wasn't blocked. My internet was down. (Bill wasn't paid)--[[User:The Real Ben|<font color="Blue">The</font>  <font color="Green">Real</font>   <font color="gold">Ben</font>]]  [[User talk:The Real Ben|<font color="Orange">Talk to Be</font>]][[User:The Real Ben/SecretError404|<font color="orange">n</font>]] 03:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-I'm going to be at L&S Fanon Wiki.--[[User:The Real Ben|<font color="Blue">The</font>  <font color="Green">Real</font>   <font color="gold">Ben</font>]]  [[User talk:The Real Ben|<font color="Orange">Talk to Be</font>]][[User:The Real Ben/SecretError404|<font color="orange">n</font>]] 10:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Blog ==
-I will only update my Blog everyday, and as I am on vacation, even with the blogs I have too much time.
-<font color="yellow" face="Arial">Please</font><font color="orange" face="Arial"> Take</font><font color="red" face="Arial"> Note: </font>[[User:Upgrader|<font color="green" face="Arial">Upgrader</font>]] <font color="blue" face="Arial"> Was </font><font color="maroon" face="Arial"> Here </font>[[User talk:Upgrader|TALK TO HIM!!]] [[File: Upgrader's_Penguins.png|75px]] 15:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Help! ==
-Seahorse! The Wiki is about to enter a Crisis!
-York, Alxeedo and Ben are gone!
-Please put it Important Announcements
-<font color="yellow" face="Arial">Please</font><font color="orange" face="Arial"> Take</font><font color="red" face="Arial"> Note: </font>[[User:Upgrader|<font color="green" face="Arial">Upgrader</font>]] <font color="blue" face="Arial"> Was </font><font color="maroon" face="Arial"> Here </font>[[User talk:Upgrader|TALK TO HIM!!]] [[File: Upgrader's_Penguins.png|75px]] 15:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-== RE:Problem ==
-Yes, I clicked that link just now. How horrifying....why can't Wompus forgive Ben? His previous actions may have been wrong, but why is that a reason to not forgive? We all forgave him...why can't he do the same?
-Yes, we do need to talk to the Webmasters about this.
---[[User:Hat Pop|<span style="color:gold;background:purple">'''Hat Pop'''</span>]]  <sup>[[User_talk:Hat_Pop|<font face="papyrus" color="purple">'''Bunny Ears Rule!'''</font>]]</sup> 21:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Hey ==
-Yeah I am fine BTW do you play paper mario?
-[[User:OOJH123|<span style="color:Blue;">OOJH123</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:OOJH123|<span style="color:orange:">Dont forget to eat your breakfast!</span>]]</sup>~02:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Pet is mad!!! XD ==
-[[File:SeaOMy.png|frame|Pet is gonna get ya!!]]--[[User:The Real Ben|<font color="Blue">The</font>  <font color="Green">Real</font>   <font color="gold">Ben</font>]]  [[User talk:The Real Ben|<font color="Orange">Talk to Be</font>]][[User:The Real Ben/SecretError404|<font color="orange">n</font>]] 02:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
-== I am impressed! ==
-Sea, you've been handling your administrator powers ''very'' well! As the title says, I am  impressed with your work!
-Your friend,
---[[User:Hat Pop|<span style="color:gold;background:purple">'''Hat Pop'''</span>]]  <sup>[[User_talk:Hat_Pop|<font face="papyrus" color="purple">'''Bunny Ears Rule!'''</font>]]</sup> 12:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Ehhh... ==
-I'm starting to think you being a sysop wasn't such a great idea. You're kinda over doing everything with your powers. You keep erasing stuff and putting your own stuff on the site notice! Did you even get permission from ANY of the webmasters to decorate the logo for holidays? If not, you have to start asking first. I'm sorry but please remember to slow down on the power using. --[[User:Sharkbate|<span style="color:aqua;background:black">'''$'''harkbate</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sharkbate|<span style="color:blue">TALK TO THA SHARK BOI!</span>]]</sup> 17:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Unfairly? ==
-You mean he didn't qualify for it?
-By the way, how many '''percent''' is needed to become a sysop?
-<font color="yellow" face="Arial">Please</font><font color="orange" face="Arial"> Take</font><font color="red" face="Arial"> Note: </font>[[User:Upgrader|<font color="green" face="Arial">Upgrader</font>]] <font color="blue" face="Arial"> Was </font><font color="maroon" face="Arial"> Here </font>[[User talk:Upgrader|TALK TO HIM!!]] [[File: Upgrader's_Penguins.png|75px]] 22:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Award ==
-[[File:Platinumears.png|thumb|You've earned my ultimate trust, Sea.]]
-Here ya go, Sea! You've earned my highest of respects!
---[[User:Hat Pop|<span style="color:gold;background:purple">'''Hat Pop'''</span>]]  <sup>[[User_talk:Hat_Pop|<font face="papyrus" color="purple">'''Bunny Ears Rule!'''</font>]]</sup> 23:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Fluffy bunny!!! ==
-[[File:BensAward.png]]--[[User:The Real Ben|<font color="Blue">The</font>  <font color="Green">Real</font>   <font color="gold">Ben</font>]]  [[User talk:The Real Ben|<font color="Orange">Talk to Be</font>]][[User:The Real Ben/SecretError404|<font color="orange">n</font>]] 23:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Quit: Never :( ==
-Don't quit. I'm tired of good friends quitting. I think it is already Crisis VII...--[[User:The Real Ben|<font color="Blue">The</font>  <font color="Green">Real</font>   <font color="gold">Ben</font>]]  [[User talk:The Real Ben|<font color="Orange">Talk to Be</font>]][[User:The Real Ben/SecretError404|<font color="orange">n</font>]] 19:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
-== :D ==
-Go to PBC chat asap--<font face="System"><span style="color:red;">C</span><span style="color:blue;">ed</span><span style="color:darkgreen;">12</span><span style="color:red;">14</span></font> 16:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Picture for Flag! ==
-[[File:Grhing.png]][[User:The Real Ben|<font color="Blue">The</font>  <font color="Green">Real</font>   <font color="gold">Ben</font>]]  [[User talk:The Real Ben|<font color="Orange">Talk to Be</font>]][[User:The Real Ben/SecretError404|<font color="orange">n</font>]]
-== penguiniki ==
-do me a favor, my subscription ended a while due to a credit card problem and currently is off. as such i dont come on much, take over the paper for now, im still the one in charge of it but just make new issues and write stuff for the paper. i'll come online everynow and again.--[[Image:Sigpenguin.gif|User Page]] {[[Image:Sigtalkpenguin.gif|Talk]]}{[[Image:SigContributionspenguin.gif|Contributions]]} 20:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Stop ==
-Don't unblock Ben's sockpuppets. He has gone bad, and we will be blocking his main account soon (when Hat Pop gives the signal). - [[File:WOMPUS! DESTROYER OF EVIL!.gif|150px]]
-== Hey! ==
-I didn't trick anyone. Everyone in the shout box agreed that Ben should be blocked: he made an account called Turtleshrooom to try and get back at TS. - [[File:WOMPUS! DESTROYER OF EVIL!.gif|150px]]
-==Blocking of The Real Ben==
-I suggest that you and Wompus78 sort out your dispute over this blocking ,or I'll just take both of your adminships away until you can sort it out sensibly and not have a block war.
---[[user:4th hale|'''''<font face="papyrus" color="007BA7">4th hale</font>''''']] [[Image:Dragon.jpg|18px]] (<font face="papyrus" color="007BA7">[[user talk:4th hale|talk]]</font>) 15:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Spotlight Request ==
-Hi Seahorseruler.  I can see that you guys continue to work hard on Club Penguin Wiki.  Your sitenotice is actually back up above 3 lines today which would need to be fixed.  However I am more concerned by the fact that you have made somebody a "webmaster" or rollbacker pretty much every day in the last week or more.  One of the criteria is that the wiki not be in the midst of choosing new admins and CP seems to be permanently choosing (and demoting) them, from what I can see in the logs.  That requirement is there because we want the wiki to be stable and focussed on content building/growth when we spotlight it.  I'm sorry but I can't add you guys to the spotlight list.  -- [[User:Merrystar|<font color="Blue">Wendy</font>]] ([[User talk:Merrystar|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 20:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
-== thanks ==
-Thanks for blocking blueshadowmask he was driving me crazy![[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Shoop Da Whoop!</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|I'm Firin' Mah Laza!]]</small> 00:37, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
-== I got more edits ==
-I am up to 74 main edits now think that's enough?[[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Shoop Da Whoop!</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|I'm Firin' Mah Laza!]]</small> 00:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Ben's block ==
-He called me "son of Satan" and TurtleShroom "an overrated Hitler". If you unblock him, you may be subject to demotion and a ban. Just because he's friends with a sysop doesn't give him the right to do what ever he wants. [[File:WOMPUS! DESTROYER OF EVIL!.gif|150px]] <small>[[User:Wompus78|See Me Here!]]</small><small>_[[User talk:Wompus78|Hate Mail Here]]_</small><small>[[User:Ben 100022|MY EVIL ENEMY!!!]]</small>
-== YOU ARE THE ONE LYING! ==
-How dare you even '''''attempt''''' at blaming it on me. You wrote a load of garbage about me that wasn't true in "Ben's evidence". You have been nothing but horrible to everyone who doesn't like Ben, so I'm happy that you've quit. [[File:WOMPUS! DESTROYER OF EVIL!.gif|150px]] <small>[[User:Wompus78|See Me Here!]]</small><small>_[[User talk:Wompus78|Hate Mail Here]]_</small><small>[[User:Ben 100022|MY EVIL ENEMY!!!]]</small>
-== Hi This is really important! Hear me out please! ==
-I want to stop Stroodolizing on this wiki. It is rude, mean, and unnecessary. You are sticking down to a vandal's level when you do that. I would like to set up a team of people to go un stroodlize all stoodlized pages. I know you will hear me out Seahorse! Thank you. LarryRawr --LarryGoesRawr! 16:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
-== So ==
-Do you finally believe me about Ben? [[File:WOMPUS! DESTROYER OF EVIL!.gif|150px]] <small>[[User:Wompus78|See Me Here!]]</small><small>_[[User talk:Wompus78|Hate Mail Here]]_</small><small>[[User:Ben 100022|MY EVIL ENEMY!!!]]</small>
-== Err.. ==
-Go to http://xat.com/ClubPolarBear RIGHT NOW!!! --[[User:Sharkbate|<span style="color:aqua;background:black">'''$'''harkbate</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Sharkbate|<span style="color:blue">DON'T MESS WITH THA SHARK BOI!</span>]]</sup> 19:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
-== I thought... ==
-I thought you were with Ben? Did you start thinking he was evil and then it's GO TURTLE! Just asking.
-[[User:Spider880|'''''<font face="papyrus" color="Maroon">''~Spider880'''</font>]]<big>†</big> 02:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Party ! ==
-[[File:Partyharty.png|thumb]]<br>
-Click [[User:Hahahahahahaha/party|here]] for more information !<br>
-[[User:Hahahahahahaha|Hahaha00000]]<small>[[User Talk:Hahahahahahaha|Fla-doodles !]],[[User blog:Hahahahahahaha|Mah Blog !]]</small>
-== Chill's Block ==
-Chill isn't Pool Water! Maybe Pool Water used a proxy. It's unlikey but STILL possible.  [[User:Russian One|Let&#39;s Have Some Fun ♥ This Beat is Sick]] 21:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
-== LarryRawr (Rollback Request) ==
-I think I have enough experience and mainspace edits to be a rollback now. What do you think Seahorse? LarryRawr --LarryGoesRawr! 05:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-== thanks for the vote ==
-Thanks for the vote I will try harder next time I probably won't make my rollback request
-wish come true
-by the way if you haven't heard of me I'm Salteroi's sister.
-Just saying  thanks for the vote!
---[[User:Cwellta|Cwellta]] 01:30, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Rawr. ==
-Are you okay with the promotion Seahorse? I don't want to be promoted if you think I am not ready. I will wait some more if you want. --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 00:25, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-Oh, Okay! That makes me feel a lot better now! Thanks Seahorse! Do I delete my request section on the RFA? --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 00:30, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-Okay. Thank you. --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 00:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Rawr =(. ==
-I just wanted to let you know that I was recently blocked on the wiki. Sharkbate thankfully un-blocked me. It said my ip address was used by Ben? --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 01:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Just one more question rawr. ==
-Sorry if I am annoying you. Where is the rollback button located just so I know for the future? --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 01:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-Thank you very much Sea. I reall appreciate it.--[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 02:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-No Sea, I'm not mad at anyone. I just want the fighting to stop. That's why I'm not going back to the Shout Box. Oh, and I saying thank you for telling me where the rollback button was =]! --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 02:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== dude ==
-Dude would you believe I think I got hacked?[[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Shoop Da Whoop!</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|I'm Firin' Mah Laza!]]</small> 21:30, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== well ==
-Yesterday right the last time I came there was no chat box but when I came back boom right there was the shout box![[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Shoop Da Whoop!</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|I'm Firin' Mah Laza!]]</small> 21:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
-== mwa mwa penguins ==
-Hi.
-Look,i dont have nothing against them,BUT THEY ARE SOOO ANNOYING.i dont know why but they bother me a LOT.I think its because my sister.IT GETS ME NUTS
---[[User:Vicyorus|Vicyorus]] 00:16, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[[User:Vicyorus]]--[[User:Vicyorus|Vicyorus]] 00:16, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Whats happening ==
-hey seahorse! let me know on my talk how i can watch for walruses! They need to be stopped! BTW also put on my talk where and when we can meet! Europea
-just a note on CP, i go by Europa Star. Europea
-== Wanna meet me? ==
-I know you don't know me that well but I was wondering if you might like to meet me on Club Penguin. Right now. Do you want to? -[[User:1337doom|1337doom]] also known as Questionmrk2 on CP! [[User talk:1337doom|Talk to Questionmrk2!]]
-== umm ==
-Do you think I have enough main edits now?[[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Shoop Da Whoop!</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|I'm Firin' Mah Laza!]]</small> 00:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-Thank you for being my friend. You're the best man nad good luck on this wiki! --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 16:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Promotion ==
-I have 102 edits, so can I be a rollback? {{IceSig}}
-== what the ==
-I have like ten for votes on my rfa and more experience![[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Shoop Da Whoop!</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|I'm Firin' Mah Laza!]]</small> 21:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
-== HELP!!! ==
-This is horrible!!! The walruses have hacked my account and removed my rights, [[Special:UserRights/ТurtleShroom|please reinstate them]]. By decree of TurtleShroom.
-<br />
---<big>†</big> [[User:TurtleShroom|कछुए मशरूम]]! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! <big>†</big>     :)  :) <sup>[[User talk:TurtleShroom|DON'T YOU DARE QUIT BECAUSE OF WHAT I JUST TYPED]]!!!!!!!!</sup> <big>†</big>
-== US One ==
-[[User:Us One|US One]] is not ben, He is me.[[User:Right round17|Right round17]] 13:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
-P.S,You are a LIAR!!
-== message ==
-Hey could you plz put on normal annoucments that I will not be o the wikia on the 23rd. Its a family celebration--<span style="color:red;background:pink">Europea</span><sup>[[User talk:Europea|Talk to me]]</sup> 01:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
-details:
-How long: I'll be of on the 23rd but i'll be back on the 24th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-What you might see: I might go on CP but only for a shrot amount of time
-== Walrus page...! ==
-[[User:Walkin Tacko|Here is W4LR()5 Stuff.]] --<font face="Impact"><span style="color:red;background:black">Iceanator189</span><span style="color:red;background:black"></span><span style="color:red;background:black"></span></font><sup>[[User talk:Iceanator189|Talk to melting ice!]]</sup> 21:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Question ==
-I just want to confirm this because you got a coin code once
-Does a coin code unlock 2 items in the Treasure book or does it depend on the code?
---<font face="System"><span style="color:red;">C</span><span style="color:blue;">ed</span><span style="color:darkgreen;">12</span><span style="color:red;">14</span></font> 16:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Ok ==
-Thanks, cause im going to Virginia soon and im considering buying CP toys.
-And the igloo playset gives 8?! Wow that must cost a lot.--<font face="System"><span style="color:red;">C</span><span style="color:blue;">ed</span><span style="color:darkgreen;">12</span><span style="color:red;">14</span></font> 16:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Igloo of the Month ==
-Why Gamgee can nominate his igloo? His igloo has no furniture.
---[[User:Pingali Moi|<span style="color:gold;background:black">'''Pingali Moi'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Pingali Moi| <font face="papyrus" color="green">'''Ca Plane Pour Moi'''</font>]]</sup> 06:43, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
-== RE: Wompus ==
-I never planned to give Wompus power. Hat Pop and Barkjon were going to be the leaders, no intervention or new webmaster otherwise. --<big>†</big> [[User:TurtleShroom|कछुए मशरूम]]! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! <big>†</big>     :)  :) <sup>[[User talk:TurtleShroom|DON'T YOU DARE QUIT BECAUSE OF WHAT I JUST TYPED]]!!!!!!!!</sup> <big>†</big> 17:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC) <br /> <br />
-You need to stop the fighting on the shout box please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!its bad --<span style="color:red;background:pink">Europea</span><sup>[[User talk:Europea|Talk to me]]</sup> 18:47, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
-quick, battle station. DELETE STR00DEL!
-== Umm... ==
-The puffles do un-lock something.... I saw a puffle which had the coin thingy, maybe you told Ced the first serie of puffles, but the second serie does have a coin to un-lock something (idk what)... By the way, what does the igloo thingy gives you to un-lock??--[[User:Ratonbat|Ratonbat]] 20:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Costum signature ==
-How do you make one? Unknown4 17:22, 26 July 2009 (UTC) PS:Can i have one like yours?
-== RE:RE: ==
-I tried coppying and pasting it twice but it said "Invalid raw signature check html tags" Unknown4 17:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Yay! ==
-Thanks it worked =D [[User:Unknown4|<span style="color:red">'''Unknown4'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Unknown4|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]] 18:06, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
-==igloo of the month==
-someone changed the igloo of the month from staffan15 to gamgee plese change it back thanks --[[User:Brendan7195|<span style="color:red;background:black">'''Brendan7195 </span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Brendan7195|<span style="color:orange">Viva la Wii'''</span></sup>]] 17:55, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
-== you said trainers are illegal ==
-you said "a note to madaco: Trainers ARE illegal. stop trying to start your own roumours, it will make more fighting"
-i would like to know what part of it is illegal. sure it doesnt comply with their terms of service, but that doesnent make it illegal. i can quote this "Game cheating, most notably in the game Club Penguin, is 100% legal in all countries. Note that while it is legal, it is against the Club Penguin Terms of Service" from a source that you disaprove of, yet does share accurate information and is a wiki, please inform me of a law that they break, because i have yet to come accross any law that they break, despite my telling every one that they are legal, (i am aware that programs that can be used to cheat on clubpenguin can be used for illegal purposes, but using them on clubpenguin is not) if you know of any law in any nonfiction country that apears on any map that was ever sold, please inform me of this law. other people have told me what you told me, i responded with something very similar to this, no one gave me a country, no one even responded. name one person who "had their computer confiscated" name one group that was shit down due to illegalty(cphq doesent count, they payed their host a small ammount of money, disney has a somewhat large influence, disney asked, it didn't cost the provider much, so they were happy to comply) please give me any evedence that it is illegal anywhere. pretty please with a pancake on top [[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 02:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
-ok, you claim that most trainers have a free membership function, riiight, I checked they dont. i only ever heard of ONE trainer that supposedly did that. you also claim that if someone uses the program but not that feature, they are still breaking the law. this is false. let me explain to you my email analogy: there are two people, Bob, and alice. Bob sends Alice a picture of his cute puppy, through an e-mail service. now you should agree(if not maybe you should go to the doctor(this means that i assume you agree))that Bob sending Alice a picture of his puppie is fine and legal. So Bob never does anything illegal with a email service, however Alice has another contact, Steve. Alice emails steve and asks him for a expensive games .exe file, (Alice does not own the game) Steve sends Alice the file. now look there, would you claim that that is legal? I doubt it. But wait, does this mean that Bob's use of the E-mail service is illegal?! of course not.
-that is my email analogy (also aplies to owning an artilerie device, but i thought that analogy might break some rules)
-So i think you should agree that i have defeated your claim about if one parts illegal it all is.
-Now for your argument that wpe pro can get you in jail, actuly, it can, but so can a butter knife(more easily a stake knife(please do not give me an infraction for what that might imply, it is meant to mean injuring not major injering))
-Wpe pro is completly legal when used on clubpenguin, bugzy said, and my dad implied that it is legal on clubpenguin.
-I think i have covered both parts of your comment, so i believe it is your turn now, please do continue, i enjoy this friendly (in my opinion) somewhat lively debate. Please do continue, really.[[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 03:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Sorry. ==
-Seahorseruler, sorry about the Penguin Band thing, It's a long story lol.  Forgive me?
-== hi, this is madaco, i would like you to know that i  ==
-put what i should of put here in the section where i put the first thing.[[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 04:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Birthday Party! ==
-Dear Seahorseruler,
-I have cancelled my birthday party because it coincideses with you Party!
-[[User:Iamred1|'''''<font face="papyrus" color="B22222">Iamred</font><font face="papyrus" color="B22222"> Is Cool!</font>]] [[File:Smile spin.gif]] [[User talk:Iamred1|<span style="color=black">Speak to the Chief of Red Team!</span>]] 11:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Sorry ==
-Sorry i kicked you on IRC i wanted to kick myself >_<--<font face="System"><span style="color:red;">C</span><span style="color:blue;">ed</span><span style="color:darkgreen;">12</span><span style="color:red;">14</span></font> <span style="color:green;"><sup>[[User talk:Ced1214|Talk]]</sup></span> 16:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Hello ==
-Hello, I'm just checkin' in, since I haven't been here for a few days. I have been active on Wikipedia, and have seen many ideas of how this wiki can be improved (I'm actually just became a Rollback there). Please tell me if I'm doing anything bad or wrong when I try to help improve things :) [[User:Alxeedo111|<font face="Calligrapher" color="darkgray"><big>Alxeedo</big>]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Alxeedo111|TALK... OR ELSE]] ([[Special:Contributions/Alxeedo111|Contribs]]|[[Special:Editcount/Alxeedo111|Editcount]])</small>
-== Mr Postcard ==
-He is not a rumor I have seen him my friend has seen him he sent me a postcard saying that he was rsnail, there is video proof of him. Why dont you beleive me!
-*Zooman98 July 31 2009 9:46 (PST)
-== agggg ==
-you have not yet continued our little friendly debate. i thought i might have shown you, but i guess not, wpe pro is not illegal and it is not the only way to get to rooms that you are not meant to have access to. for example anyone can easily get to the epf hq, without being 30 days old(on their penguin, not in real life) and without  having a spy phone using penguin storm, wile it is most likely possible to access the member only rooms with wpe pro, that is not the only way, if it can be done with wpe, it can be done with pcl, and penguin storm has a option where you enter in the room anme that you want to go to, allowing you to go to rooms not on penguin storms list. so wpe is not the knly way, and i have put why wpe is legal on your talk page previously (see the email analogy) please do not ignore this, you have 4 options that i would like you to choose from, you also have a fifth one (which can be broken into smaller subdecisions) that includes not responding, but please choose, either: 1 continue the debate, by responding to my points that you have not currently aaddressed, 2 tell me that you would like to wait a while and then continue(and actuly continue later) 3 agree with me or 4 disagree with me no matter what i say like a fan boy would( i do not sugest this option)
-so , please respond and continue the debate( or accept my accuracy, however i would have more fun if you continued the debate, and you might as well)
-i look forwards to continue to match wits with you.[[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 05:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
-== when? ==
-you say it often damages cp, WHAT!? in what ways?! all you do is change things to waht they are to what they couldve been in the game. how does moonwalking damage servers?! what does a site being copyrighted have to do with anything?! did someone hijack you account to post what you posted? wpe pro can get you in more trouble because it is more advanced? ill have you know that my dad uses a program very similar to wpe at his work! wpe captures packets and lets you edit them, his program captures them and lets him look at them to see what the problems woth servers talking to each other are! also, i should not, that i have never seen <b>any</b> evedince of cheating damaging cp or of anyone being fined. heres how it works
-|-------------------|
-|clubpenguin normaly| zoomed in is
-|___________________|
-there is the webpage which consists of a flash element refrencing a other flash files(this is the page where play cp)
-the other flash files which refrence php files that controll the online part
-php files
-info files
-now the php and info files store information about the servers(which room people are in, what theyr saying, their penguin name etc. ) and also perminint info about penguins such as what ietems they have  and weather they are a member
-so normally someone buys an item, or picks one up at a free item place, and it is added to the ssection that contins their invintory.(and their coin ammount is decreased if they bought it). if someone walks somwwhere, it sends every one what direction they go in, and where they go to and from. every one get this and the penguin walks there. If a cheater changes what he is sending the server so that it sends a different direction, or so it has the direction of him moving when hes not. so the server saves that information, where in that could the server possibly be damaged.
-do you even know what wpe pro does? it edits information that you send, nothing more. completly legal.
-also copyrighting only protects people against COPYING HENCE THE NAME COPYRIGHT it give people rights in regard to copying. so you just repeated waht you had said before, but added the word copyrighted. while i encourage your freindly deabting with me, i would hope that you dont just add a random legality word and repeat yourself, i would like you to respond to my arguments. [[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 04:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Icebreaker2?? ==
-Who is Icebreaker2?
-== the hacking argument ==
-I can see you trying to tell Madaco that hacking is illegal. Well guess what, me too! I would be glad if we could work together on this problem. Let me know on my talk.--<span style="color:red;background:pink">Europea</span><sup>[[User talk:Europea|Talk to me]]</sup> 22:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
-osm (osm=awesome! My friend uses it.)lets do it!--<span style="color:red;background:pink">Europea</span><sup>[[User talk:Europea|Talk to me]]</sup> 00:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
-you do know that I have both your pages on my watch list right? more people isnt something that will convince me, only pure logic and accuracy(however, more people would help you come up with better arguments, i just mean that a bunch of people telling me the same thing does not convince me any more).bugzy, russion one and the bannanna revelution all agree that clubpenguin cheating is legal.[[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 00:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
-sorry that was not meant to sound like a threat, i just meant i knew you were caloberating.[[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 01:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
-um should we tell the webmasters?--<span style="color:red;background:pink">Europea</span><sup>[[User talk:Europea|Talk to me]]</sup> 02:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
-Im thinking about making a blog post about this, but im worried that if i do that this will escalate from a frendly debate to a fight. your thoughts?[[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 02:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
-sea meet me on cp--<span style="color:red;background:pink">Europea</span><sup>[[User talk:Europea|Talk to me]]</sup> 14:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
-thanks btw meet me on cp im on snow shoe dock--<span style="color:red;background:pink">Europea</span><sup>[[User talk:Europea|Talk to me]]</sup> 19:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
-== I am very Active ==
-I sign on everyday and edit alot please put me on the wall of activeness
-We are on Tundra at the Dock. Can you meet us?--<span style="color:red;background:pink">Europea</span><sup>[[User talk:Europea|Talk to me]]</sup> 14:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Hey Seahorse! ==
-I made a blog.
-It would be nice if you checked it out.
-[[User blog:Mectrixctic/Lesser Known Club Penguin Wikis]]
-Thank you!
-[[User:Mectrixctic|I am da bomb!]] 17:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Rollbacking templates ==
-You shouldn't go rollbacking '''all''' of StainedClass' changes to the templates. He is doing them for all the right reasons, templates are too big on here, and StainedClass, Ced and I have agreed to convert the majority of user templates to become userboxes. Just check this out if you want to know, scroll down to the last operation: [[User blog:Tigernose/Changing the wiki]].
-<sub> --[[User:Tigernose|<span style="color:red;">'''<font face="Aurek-Besh Hand">TЙГЭPHO3Ь</font>'''</span>]] </sub>[[Image:Tigernosenm.PNG|30px]] <sup>([[User talk:Tigernose|<span style="color:purple;">'''<font face="Tahoma">Chat|'''</font></span>]][[Special:Editcount/Tigernose|<span style="color:orange;">'''<font face="Tahoma">Edits|'''</font></span>]][[User:Tigernose/Vandalwatch|<span style="color:green;">'''<font face="Tahoma">Vandals)'''</font></span>]]</sup> 22:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
-== template ==
-Your template that shows eastern time is off by 1 hour.[[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Shoop Da Whoop!</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|I'm Firin' Mah Laza!]]</small> 22:32, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Hey Seahorse ==
-I'm just wondering, can you change the link to CPFw from "Fan Fiction Wiki" to "Fanon Wiki"? Because the Club Penguin Fanon Wiki is not the Club Penguin Fan Fiction wiki.
-Thank you
-[[User:Mectrixctic|I am da bomb!]] 22:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Brookelas Party ==
-Hey Seahorse, I am having a music jam and YOUR invited!
-Date: August 18th
-Server: Nothern Lights
-Time: 1:00 pm PST, 4:00pm EST
-Where: Brookelas Igloo on the Map
-What to wear: Any musical instrument
-Plz tell me if ur coming or not by sending me a message through my user talk
-Thx.
-== Invitation ==
-{{Par1}}
-== Hi ==
-Its Salteroi here and I was wondering
-if you would like to edit on my new wiki!-
-http://cpcag.wikia.com/wiki/Club_Penguin_Cheats_and_Glitches_Wiki
-Talk Soon!
-Salteroi
-== ello sea your resoning please ==
-<b>(this is not mean to be rude, insuling, or threatiening in anyway)</b>
-sea, why is it iilegal?, its not because its "hacking" ( see http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(programmer_subculture)  also, its not hacking , its cheating, the person making the trainer may be hacking to make it(the definition i linked you to of course) but not the users)nor because its copyrighted, (as copyrighting gives rights against copying hence the name copy-right) and getting memberships for free is nearly impossible(if not completly) and even if it was possible, that does not make the rest illegal, i have already shown you my email accaunt analogy, in the comments of my blog post the hands analoge is discussed, so seahorseruler, are you just keeping to what you originally though or do you have a reason i have not debunked? I wish to knpw your reasoning seahorse ruler, <b>(this is not mean to be rude, insuling, or threatiening in anyway)</b>[[User:Madaco|Madaco]] 22:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Account Creation ==
-I saw you discussing this in the shout box.
-Iceanator has been making several "spare" accounts and it is quite annoying.
-*DA ICE MAN
-*Club Penguin Wiki
-*etc.
-Russian One created a new spare account.
-Two new users were blocked.
-*Kjhfdbgvhfvhgdfvggfhghfuckinfuckin‎ (Violation of Username Policy)
-*Hmm vital? (Sockpuppeting)
-Thats 5 out of 12. I'm starting to think we should block any more new user accounts... [[User:Alxeedo111|<font face="Exotc350 Bd BT" color="red"><big>Alxeedo</big>]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Alxeedo111|Blah blah blah...]] ([[Special:Contributions/Alxeedo111|Contribs]]|[[Special:Editcount/Alxeedo111|Editcount]])</small>
-== RAWR! ==
-Can you change the recent edit made by Turtleshroom on Template:WIKIFAMILY. He put something about the UN-CP that might not appeal to other users. --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 19:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-Seahorse, I think TS is blocking users and he put the UN-CP as un-holy on the site notice. Check it out please. --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 19:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-Okay then. --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 19:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-Are Zapwire and Leekduck going to be un-blocked now? Even though they swore at TS, they did not swear here. The wiki they cuss at allows cussing too. --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 19:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
-== RAWR! ==
-Hello Seahorse,
-I have finshed moving all the unprotected talk pages out of Archive:.
-Can you move these protected pages for me please?
-*Archive:Sockpuppets411 talk 1
-*Archive:TurtleShroom's Talk Page 4
-*Archive:TurtleShroom's Talk Page 1
-*Archive:TurtleShroom's Talk Page 2
-*Archive:TurtleShroom/monobook.css
-*Archive:User talk:Happyface414
-*Archive:User talk:Seahorseruler 1
-*Archive:User talk:Seahorseruler 2
-Remember to use the User talk:<username>/# format please for the user talks!
-Thank you! --[[User:LarryRawr|<font face="Arial" color="A020F0">LarryGoesRawr!</font>]]  <small>[[User talk:LarryRawr|LOL!]]</small> 01:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

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